the sleep walker. how he is vulnerable. that's now how the students seen it. they see it as a threatening image. it is an all girls school. it may trigger memories of sexual assault in people that see it because it is a man who isn't fully dressed. other people have objected the they think it is whiteness and maleness are a real imposition on campus. somebody called it discomforting. >> all right. i will push back and play the role of the university. we want people to learn. between want people to be comfortable. if it is an ugly climate, if i'm in your face and say -- you are a big, fat, ugly parasite lawyer, and i'm screaming at you, how can people learn? shouldn't there be a civilized public square? especially at a university? >> well, civility is an important value but not anywhere near as important as freedom. and the fact is we are training wellesley students -- least liberal arts college. we are training them to be so