transmission is in the shop for repairs. when does it get to second gear? he said, honestly years. so it's not just years in terms of it working. i think it's somewhat maybe years certainly many months away from measuring what these real numbers are. a lot of the way the numbers are thrown around, what credibility do they have on either side? i think zero. >> paul, we haven't heard from you on obamacare as former head of the world bank. what do you think of how it is going? >> you know, it seems to me i hear numbers and think it's correct, 5 million people had policies canceled, the ones they were promised they could keep. presumably some of the 5 million new enrollees are people that got kicked out and got back in. it may have increased the