wrong with reports on alcoholism and prostitution. one area i'm very familiar with, the other i'm somewhat familiar with. >> the turtle tunnel? >> you put those costs up against a half a trillion dollars then you are talking bsh. >> obamacare is a trillion bucks. >> it is in the private health care system. >> and don't you think the veterans are worth at least a trillion? >> okay. you keep talking about deficits, go ahead. >> no one has been arguing until today until they tried to do a little bit of cover up on it there hasn't been enough money, there are structural problems, this goes back decades with the congress because everybody wants to be for the veterans but the over sight and the management of it has not been up to par obviously. but it's interesting thing about this insend it at the vising once of things we complain about is government doesn't act like a business, so when you try to