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documentation. but second, there's no doubt in my mind that mistakes were made in this program. there may have been some abuses, and that's why republicans wanted an honest evaluation of this program. it was conducted immediately in the aftermath of 9/11 when, basically, the white house was given carte blanche to do whatever it takes to defend our country against terrorism. of course some mistakes were made, and it's a shame we didn't have an honest, bipartisan assessment of this program to find out what those mistakes were. jon: well, how would you have made it more honest? i mean, you say we needed an honest, bipartisan assessment. how would you have achieved that? >> we should have had republican and democratic staffers working cooperatively to determine the facts of this case. there would have been a bipartisan body of the report, and then republicans and democrats would submit additional views and where they didn't agree on the bipartisan body of the report. the bipartisan body of this report is entirely democratic.

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