calls, 600 events to try to push enrollment. if obamacare was so great, would the product have been selling itself? the true test of the legacy obamacare, is it going to be the cost? did it save people money? not about how many people enrollment it's how happy they are with the product. do they stay? do they hold the administration accountable for higher costs, lower quality of care? >> we used to say you can polish a turd all you want, it's still a turd. that's what this is. there are plans. they're there. >> but they don't articulate them. >> that goes back to harris' o popoo brownie story. we're waiting for an update on the sydney hostage siege that ended in a hail of gun fire after 16 hours. this as australia news is now reporting that the gunman and at least two hostages are dead. several others hurt. stay close. clear cloer