manner. and then talked about the alleged confrontation with police. the cops are -- have had it with him. the morale here in new york city with these cops is the lowest as i've ever seen it. >> yes. >> is he mishandling this? >> he's profoundly mishandling it. his job is not to take sides in this. his job is to put his arms around everybody and bring people together. the city cannot exist without police. without police the city will be a crazy lawless frontier. the police are doing their job. are the police perfect? no. none of us is perfect. but for the mayor obviously to take sides against the police accelerates and exacerbates this confrontation. people chanting in the streets have the right to say what they want. even if it's disrespectful. even if it's hateful. but when it leads to violence and the mayor denies what we have all seen, he ratchets this up and makes it profoundly worse to the point where you can't blame the police for their