you have to stop the first stone, first rock, the first window. i also realized that by dealing with sharpton, the mayor was elevating him at the same level of the mayor. and here was my rule. i'm not dealing with it. i will only deal with people who have a legitimate interest in really solving the problem and i never found in any of the problems i had that al sharp ton. >> so you had nothing to do with it? >> i froze all of them out who had no legitimate interest in solving the problem. >> therefore, they hated you. >> they hated me. >> demonized you as some racist guy. >> i turned from new york city from the crime capital of america to the safest large city in america in four years and the major beneficiary of that is the black community. and what they have done for the black community for 30 years except watch a lot of people get killed and blame it on the cops. >> up next, our factor special. america black & white continues.