to him. if you're just a witness which the other officers in the room were, including the one who had the big gash to his head that needed stitches, because the de se dent threw the table and assaulted him and picked up a mop handle and broom stick and attempted to go after the state trooper who were interviewed by the state prosecutor -- >> i've got to call you out. it was not witnesses. there was one other massachusetts trooper that was in the room and one other witness outside who didn't see what happened. we're relying upon the word of the trooper. >> do you think that the lawsuit against the fbi will be successful, given immunity, proving a case like this, arthur? >> no. i don't think so. i also think when the facts come out, there was some form of assault. there's an injured law enforcement officer. you could go out on a limb and said they executed this guy for whoever knows, and hit him in the head to frame the guy.