course i'm willing to give the death penalty, but when rubber meets the road and you're asked to send somebody to death that's a different story. so i think the prosecution's going to have to deal with that. >> this is being tried in the state that does not have the death penalty. which is why the state took over. so he could actually get the death penalty. but the pool is from a community that has not wanted the death penalty. >> as we look at the victims, we don't want to forget about them today as we're talking about these guilty verdicts coming in for the zft martin richards. count five, guilty, possession and use of a fire arm, pressure cooker bomb number two during and in relation to a crime of violence resulting in death, and aiding and abetting, death penalty charge here again, brian. >> the fact gretchen that they're finding guilt on the aiding and abetting is very