top five universities that give you the most bang for your future buck, no ivy in sight. so what's in a name? not as much as you think. you know, i'm headed to my harvard reunion, literally when this show ends. now i'm starting to wonder. [laughter] although i do love my job here, and i love andrea despite the tears in the last segment. >> you by far are one of the brightest people i know. >> you're just saying that because i was crying. [laughter] >> no no. i say that about people who don't cry. and i don't just say that because i adore you. but i will say this: that's not the issue. the issue isn't how bright you are coming out of college, the issue is how much fight you have coming out of college. and i would say that when you are able to take those dream vacations during spring break versus working hard while everybody else is on the beach saying one day i'll be able to, that's a different fighting spirit in your heart. >> yeah. >> and i just think that that hunger drives you to do much more. and the gap between what you don't have and what you can get