immigrants not creating crimes. >> that's not true. it's a whole package. sanctuary city will not cooperate with the federal government on immigration law. that is the definition of it. what say you? >> if case law would be place heland have been deported. he did have a prior record. sanctuary cities are a core value of the democratic party. and if you ask democrats like hillary clinton why they are in place they say it's so that immigrants can come out of the shadows if they want to report a crime. the problem is, bull, is we see illegals actually committing the crime. and you asked a great question. how many americans have to die before democrats reverse this core principle of their party which is sanctuary cities? >> it's the same question it's not a core principle. >> yes it is. >> you believe deeply in it? >> jessica i have to correct you here. if this man had committed these acts in mississippi all right or indiana or another state that doesn't embrace the sanctuary