advice, and that she got no lawyer to take a look at this. nobody studied the rules and regulations. and in a reckless move, she allowed confidential, classified and top secret information to flow over an unprotected and unsecure network. and she's got to show regret about this in order to begin to put this thing behind her. >> carl, thank you. and the plot thickens. new information about the i.t. company in charge of hillary clinton's private e-mail server. the company is now getting a taste of what it's like o be at the ecenter of presidential politics. rosalind, nice to see you. what do you learn from speaking with the representatives of the country? >> i've learned this is not a fun experience for them the past few weeks or so.