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of relevant information. that's what they should be interested in. i'm surprised they are allowing themselves to be thwarted by. this especially given that hillary clinton and all her aides claim and elijah cummings claimed they want him to talk. >> i think it's smart legal advice on the part of his lawyer. if you look back to the 90's and all the collateral damage that happened to people in the clintonor bit during investigations, dating back to the macdougalls and white water, and you look at what's happened to people not just in clinton investigations and others, it's a quick hot, skip, and a jump to it a bad memory to being indicted for impeding an investigation. >> sure. but the clinton campaign, charles, has said and insisted that they encouraged everybody to talk to these congressional committees, including brian pagaliono. >> that's what they say but you don't know where the one eye was winking when they were telling him that if you go through the logic, you ask yourself why would the guy take the fifth?

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