likes this guy. this is great news. the problem he would be a i will spoiler. he would take votes from hillary, not from bernie sanders. that means he is going to elevate effectively bernie sanders into winning. i think that would be the problem. his issue, do you want to end your career, having bernie sanders be the nominee? look i want him in there -- >> you think sanders would be nominee. >> i don't think so. >> would split the vote with hillary. >> not necessarily. >> i love it. biden is always liked and gotten single digits in elections and i think he should go for it. jon: doesn't joe biden do bert against republican candidates in the polls than hillary clinton does. >> does a little bit but you have to of course become the nominee in order to get there. he is running third right now. >> good numbers for someone not running. >> when he runs, hard questions begin and not fantasy and not media promoting him. >> right. here is where you make a little bit of a mistake you're