sophisticated. this was not some elaborate, complicated espionage scheme. they hacked into some democratic party e-mails that contained pretty routine stuff, some of it embarrassing or uncomfortable because i suspect if any of us got our e-mails hacked into there might be some things we wouldn't want suddenly appearing ton the front page of a newspaper or tell -- telecast, even if there weren't anything illegal or comfort below it. then -- controversial about it. and then it just took off and that concerns me and should concern all of us. but the truth of the matter is that everybody had the information. it was out there and we happened it the way we should have.