into a new presidency, how do we come to the table. this is not america, right? this is not america. how do we come together and have a conversation about making our country better, how do we have a conversation about looking beyond race, looking beyond gender, looking beyond -- >> tucker: i am totally -- look. you walk into a certain neighborhood, you are the wrong color, you are liable to get in trouble. okay? that is just true. i know it firsthand. you can't say that out loud and most venues because it doesn't doesn't -- >> that is part of the problem. you need to have these conversations. when i walk in -- when i go to friendship heights, and the d.c. area, or any high-end boutique, i'm followed around by a salesclerk because i happen to be african-american, it is the same as you getting in trouble and a black neighborhood. we have to have these conversations to break the stigma down. when it happens to become i go to the manager and say, your clerk is following me, i'm here to make a purchase, this is wrong, we need to work on fixing it. >> tucker: i think this sums