gorsuch, saying some may find the greens' beliefs offensive, but they are religious beliefs. today, women employed by federally owned companies who choose not to cover contraceptives may have to cover the costs themselves. martha. >> martha: thank you, trace. joining me now for an exclusive interview, david green, his new book is called "giving it all away and getting it all back again, the way of living generously." we'll talk to him about that as he join us. thank you. >> good to be here. thank you. >> when you watch that and think about the road that you all have been on, you never set out to be the public face of any religious liberty case, did you. >> not at all. we had no choice. >> martha: tell me more. >> we had i choice of either paying $1.3 million a day or going against our conscience. we knew we could not provide these drugs that would really cause abortion. >> martha: in terms of your philosophy, as you look at your
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