of how the money moves around. our technical and intelligence capability married with the gccs cultural capabilities and language capabilities is unprecedented, and it really is going to dry up in large parts the biggest donors, the biggest guys who wish they were jihadists but too scared to go so they give the money away. this is the great stuff. >> when you say gcc, colonel, you're talking about syria -- not syria, talking about egypt, jordan, which countries? >> those are the gulf cooperation council, judge, saudi arabia, qatar, kuwait, oman, the united arab emirates and bahrain. countries that have very, very strong military partnerships with the u.s., now a counterthreat financing partnership. momentum is building, this is a great sign. judge jeanine: colonel utterback, thank you very much. and dr. ahmed, thank you so much. former u.n. ambassador john