>> i brought myself down. i gave them a sword. they stuck it in and they twisted it with relish. if i had been in their position, i would have done the same. >> neil: richard next -- nixon who said in that famous interview, with the water gate thing that they took the sword and they'll more relished turning it in him. we have press secretary ari fleischer on that. good to have you. >> great to be here. thanks. >> neil: what do you make of that maybe this donald trump jr. thing, we're nowhere near that, i grant you, but you've seen the obsession and the coverage, that this is the start of it. donald trump has got to be careful. >> donald trump jr. that i would have done differently on the interview, he walked up to the line and said there are things i would have done differently. all he had to say, on this one, the critics were right and i shouldn't have taken the