continuing to develop, continue to go hord -- yes, you do? >> that's bad for everybody, the other is that kim doesn't have the capacity to attack the united states. we can achieve both of those goals. melissa: how? >> changing the regime or starting world war iii. between nuclear conventional deterrence and missile defense we can check any nuclear threat against the united states. we can check any escalation from mid or lower level and heavy containment will work because the sanctions are going to really limit the capacity of them to really build out their inventory so there's significant military threat. melissa: they're reporting that they have the ability to reach parts of the u.s. if they have the miniaturized war head. you don't think they're a threat already? >> no, they won't get there, one