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morning. he has testified before congress, and the parliament of australia about guns. this may be the first machine gun act, even though it wasn't a machine gun. it was a conversion. meanwhile, in france, you have had for such examples in 2015, and they have the tightest gun-control laws, but they have had four of these attacks. so a band, even there, it doesn't work. so my point is this. about this stuff has been happening in places where they have a very strict gun shoot control. >> kimberly: yeah, absolutely, and it is important to look at the facts, information versus hysteria. because we see this automatic reflex, knee-jerk reaction, right away, we've got to have more gun laws. we have to have more background checks. well, he did all the background checks. he passed us. he was able to purchase these guns and also get some that are illegal. so there was not a lack of

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