everybody. it costs $30,000 a year in premiums for a family insurance plan. i pick up 75% of the tab, it's ridiculous. health care is out of control. i'm very curious to see if this plan will help. >> harris: my democrats friends asked this bottom-line question, how do you say the plan is bad when it does something like let the engine pool together and buy plans across state lines? how is that bad? >> i can understand it, they need people to funnel into government insurance because that's where they want to go. they don't want a private sector solution. as somebody who depends on getting this right, i need to see if this works because i have to buy insurance. as one company i have no clout, no bargaining power.