but something like fraud or money laundering. what will that tell us about the mueller investigation? >> the little phrase from rod rosenstein, ambrose may arise from the investigation. the reason you have that is that if special counsel finds evidence unrelated to his or her original jurisdiction you do not ignore it. but it will be really important whether or not this indictment involves 15-year-olds business transactions for 15-day-old conversations with russia. so it's really important what the charge is. it is really important for the person being charged is. one thing i do not get that excited about although i do see a lot of reporting is somehow or another, you will be able to flip a witness and the witness will turned states evidence on everyone else. if he did not believe a witness yesterday, chances are you will not believe that witness