principles and at the same time compromise in order to advance them. i hope that's what we are able to do. and, you know, if you want to talk about sanctuary cities, i saw some of the piece rolling into this. >> martha: yeah. >> can you cite the example of that particular person but the truth of the matter is it's not new american immigrants who are driving violent crime in america. it's native born americans. >> martha: three out of the four terrorists arrested in this country, some 500 of them are all from somewhere else. they are all foreigners that came to this country through the immigration program. three out of four of them. >> i don't doubt that. but what i do take -- what i will contest is the notion that somehow mayors are creating sanctuaries for violent criminals. look, mayors don't get elected to make their cities more violent. >> martha: they have to uphold the law, governor, do they not? aren't they subject to the law in their city? >> excuse me, come again. >> martha: they have to