>> hypocrisy. if it's a powerful black liberal woman, it's okay. vice president pence is cra-cra and ridiculed for it f oprah said she was going to yoga and trying to wait for enlightenment or praying to buddha or allah i think it would have been okay. i think this derision or scorn is reserved for christians especially conservative christians who happen to be republican. so par for the course. >> martha: it's clear joy behar can't stand mike pence, nothing he can do right. but his comment was forceful. and she obviously alienated a lot of people. >> she did. >> martha: still trying to make up for it. >> oprah winfrey and mike pence are where most people are. they lost the heartland, lost working class americans. this kind of attitude from most pro depressives isn't a way to win. >> martha: quit thought on allie rice in the picture.