expert,nd who notted the first arms deal with the north koreans during the nuclear crisis in 1994, which ended up being violated, and he said, look, if they agree on everything and not the nuclear issue, then they've accomplished nothing. if they agree on the nuclear issue and nothing else, then they've accomplished everything. let's talk about the roadblocks and what has to be accomplished. first of all, there's going to have to be a declaration by the north koreans as to what they have done, how many missiles that god, how many nukes they've got, what their nuclear enrichment program is -- >> ed: we are in the dark on that. >> and where it is. this is the really key factor. there is going to have to be some kind of an inspection regime to allow outsiders in to the hermit kingdom to check and see, are they telling the truth, do they have what they say they have in the places they say they have it, and are there places that they are not talking about where they are hiding stuff?