with the federal authorities and are defying federal law it's a step backwards. we do that at our own peril. >> laura: you're not a political figure but you live in philadelphia, in the area, what is your sense about the constituents? i mean minorities, the poor, the disadvantaged are the ones vikt highs did the most by illegal immigrant crime. any sense about how they're feeling about this may or? >> again i think that what people want is they want to know their law enforcement officers, whether federal or local or state, are enforcing the rule of law in a non-partisan fairmaner, treating everybody fairly. it's fundamentally un-american and unfair to not enforce the law against an entire population. >> laura: any sense about the nationwide injunctions, sanctuary city, defund? we have other individual federal district court rulings on immigrati