>> sandra: i want to jump in here. we're showing a picture of you sitting alongside your friend aretha franklin. i don't know if you can see us and tell us where you were and what was going on. please continue. >> that is -- that was at the party at the ritz at her birthday party. that was the last birthday party she had at the ritz. from that point on, you know, we realized that the next party was given at the mohican sun and i wasn't able to be there. that was the last birthday party she had at the ritz. >> bill: the first time you met her you were very young in trenton, new jersey. you met her in the church. >> i met her in church. her father was preaching at a church.
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