knowledge it had happened. this is in a terrifying world in my opinion. >> jesse: i was very open-minded about ford from last week. i wanted to hear what she had to say and i was willing to believe what she had to say if she came through with facts. but if you add the second woman and add the gross stuff that avenatti is doing, the timing is political and suspicious. it ruins the original accusation in terms of the credibility. >> juan: here is the real deal to me. you have now republicans up for midterm elections. i'm talking about susan collins, lisa murkowski, jeff flake is not up but you have people are aware of how republicans will be seen. do they really want to hear this woman? or the case you want her out of way and then solidify a hard right conservative majority on the court for generations to come? conservatives and republicans have to play it carefully. >> greg: i think they have been accommodating. >> i don't think so.