>> i think we should stop framing this in absolutes. good, bad, enforcing, not enforcing. theon border, as you can see, it is in force. border security, border control, through military members. and things like drones, atvs. high-tech surveillance equipment. so we are enforcing the border. >> tucker: so how did they get there? >> it is not a crisis or an invasion. >> tucker: now, i know what the talking points are. what is so interesting about theser: interviews is that these seem to contradict the talking points. so to the people of tijuana, i would say that they are probably not white supremacist. i think you can take that as a matter of faith. to think that this is a crisis. byre the way, if they are mayor agrees with them. i do not think that he is a racist. is he a racist too? >> he said that all immigrants are welcome in tijuana.