ridiculed him all the time in columns that dripped with class envy on her part. but nonetheless, he was -- and, you know, he got along with us. he was okay with us, and he knew us all. he'd been around washington forever. he knew all of us who were covering him, knew us by name, called us by name and so forth. and, you know, he basically, he could handle it. dana: this is franklin graham. he was talking this morning about that moment, that big decision that was decisive in his presidency. watch this. >> that was a very difficult night for him, and i remember he called my father and asked that my father would be with him that night at the white house. because the president knew the cost in american lives, in iraqi lives. he knew what war was about. so the two of them stayed up all night together, and they had not just with one prayer, but they had a number of prayers together as that war began. dana: of course, that was the