about different elements of the white house not working effectively. kelly tried to get everything on the train track. >> we have been focusing so much on nick heirs. there's a good probability that he will be the next chief of staff. you know better than anyone nothing is final until president trump says it is final. are you hearing any other names as a possible replacement? >> for a long time mick mulvaney was talked about as a possibility. his name was still surfacing. i think that has fallen off. again, you don't know what you don't know. i do think it is probably going to be nick heirs. i think there will be a lot of different efforts. the white house counsel also switch just recently.
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