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when he's said we have knocked the hell out of them. and he had to knock the hell out of them because of the precipitous withdrawal that his predecessor barack obama made. they turned into tens of thousands and took over territory the size of ohio in syria and iraq. right now according to our military they have about 30,000 fighters. if they have lost their physical caliphate and president trump deserves great credit for removing their physical caliphate for what they've done is reverted into a classic insurgency and according to our military isis is as powerful today as they were before the surge in 2007. so they are not defeated yet and we have a lot of work to do before they are. >> bret: karen? >> i think it was a great thing that he went and i'm sure the troops very much appreciated it and certainly after christmas eve with more than a dozen tweets it was interesting. he was relatively disciplined for donald trump. i think the only thing that really marred it when he kind of

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