but the president can't grow at least from a democratic information we have because he's been so focused on his core. that gap between the core and the electoral base that he won, if he can't grow, he's got to -- he won't have hillary clinton. he won't have comey. he won't have barack obama. arthel: he might have bideen. >> the president's got to find his boogie man, if you will. >> the democrats may take care of that for him. the best bet is for the democrats to overreach, whether it's in terms of investigation, whether that's overreach on border security, there are chances there for the democrats to fumble and make very similar mistakes republicans made in 2012 and 2016. arthel: boyd, let me stay with you. a simple answer for both of you. boyd, what democratic ticket would you like to take on president trump? >> wow, that's the million dollar he question. i think those that will be most interesting -- you have to