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you can look at venezuela, cambodia, cuba, east germany, romania. all of socialism is ugly and disgusting but bernie is likable. he's like your crazy uncle who washes his hair once a week, doesn't think it's valuable to wash it more. the conflicts with his own party. the left loves his ideas. tax and spend socialism. he has three strikes against him. old, white, male. he stinks of ben-gay and jell-o. >> dana: do you think he was under estimated in 2016 but now overestimated in 2020? >> lawrence: i believe people should take him seriously, because although he won't win, there's a bigger move it play. people have his ideas were funny before but then we have the aocs of the world, this new freshman class showed you can get elected on running on these

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