been trained ethically when there's a mall function with thm and take the proper recovery procedure. >> harris: i know boeing doesn't own the planes anymore, the airlines do, but separate from what airlines are doing could boeing step in and say, "we are going to do a recall?" >> they could do a recall. really, in this industry, what they do is a grounding. what i would like to see is why can't there be a happy medium on this? why can't we reach a compromise? we have two different ntsb chairman on the opposite sides of the range of this. one saying this is a witch hunt, what are we doing? the other saying, "of course we need to run the fleets immediately." why can't there be some terrain in the middle of this when we say, "here's what we are going to do. at a minimum, we will take the 737 max crews and put them through simulator training." that be going on right now. we could take everybody, put them through simulator training, take them off line for a day, and run through this.