anti-to -- antiracist video but to call ben carson and extremists and possibly the most soft-spokn moderate man and all of america shows you they have no credibility whatsoever. they may have to pay up because they have a lot of lawsuits they are facing. >> ed: absolutely appeared to be clear, and presumption of innocence and we don't know the details reporting the facts but should point out even if you don't like his politics, going after the kkk was a good thing we applied that for sure. >> michael: of course. but how did this nation go astray and all of a sudden it came about, not about going after the kkk not a legitimate hate but using politics and going after people because they are conservative. >> michael: all you have to do was look at the bank account. what this enterprise turned into one that was legitimately fighting racial bigotry to a major fund-raising apparatus that put over $100 million overseas. it turned, became partisan and