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until we start treating immigration as a national counterterrorism layering problem, then we are not going to effectively be able to deploy any type of israeli style security to prevent the next church attacker. >> i think there is something we need to discuss here, this was not about attacking one church. let's think about what he was planning. he was planting a secondary bomb after the church was attacked. we had discussed this with two fbi agents. >> laura: backpack bomb. >> he was going to wait for the police to get here. that's what they do, when i was in iraq and afghanistan, i covered the war, they would always say don't go right after the bombing because there's always a secondary. that means he was trained. i would like to know more about who he was talking to. >> laura: where is the digging by american reporters on this? did he go to a mosque? maybe he didn't, maybe he did.

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