planes with him, went all over with him. i'm not saying that bill clinton was involved in any way but he's the one who was really close to him. i can't imagine i ever had much to do with anything. i don't recall ever having anything to do with them. >> laura: looks like they are clearly after this alex acosta labor secretary for the president with effectively deal, any thoughts on that tonight? >> my view is somebody charged with the things he is charged with, you throw the maximum penalty at him. i don't know what he decided as u.s. attorney. i don't want to second-guess that. my knee-jerk reaction to it is that the guy should be in jail for a long time. given what i know publicly, and have to put in the caveat, everyone is presumed innocent. >> laura: one final thought, rudy, question, nancy pelosi nancy pelosi spoke out today on the senses citizenship question and made an outrageous wipe -- more than a swipe -- at the president. watch. >> this is about keeping -- you