>> when will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby? >> reporter: congress will spend the next two months fighting about the death ceiling and cuts. rob and sunny, back to you. >> thank you. a couple of months may be optimistic. there is no guarantee whatsoever what congress is going to do. but it is an interesting moment that the nra is being brought to the table. that should be an encouraging sign that -- around that table there's going to be a nice balance of opinion. >> right. different voices. it's interesting, the nra claims $4.4 million was spent on congressional lobbying. the brady campaign spent $5,800. so there is a disparity in terms of the amount spent lobbying. but they all need to be around that table. there should be a happy medium. i think everyone agrees that the second amendment is there for a purpose, but let's reach a consensus on this. >> absolutely. there's no way you can have a