she was scared blankless, if you get what i'm saying here. >> we do. don't go any further. >> perry said she trained day in and out and had words to share about frenemy taylor swift. perry said she feels like she's often cast as a villain, while swift is a media sweetheart. not that we are showing any favorites here at all. >> because we already showed our hand. taylor swift can never be the bad guy. >> why can't we like both of them? they are equally talented women. i did not know they were frenemies. >> that's a media thing. we see two gorgeous, talented women and have to pit them against each other. >> when is the last time that you pitted men against each other? >> people want to put me and david muir. always want to put me -- >> oh, stop. >> like we have some kind of beef. it is all love. >> oh, boy. >> david doesn't know who i am. next up, another rising star -- >> t.j. hopes. a rising star is following her mother and grandmother's footsteps. >> 22-year-old billy lord seen