american argument against building mosques. the issue here in new york city is the proximity to what is sacred ground. that's ground zero, but we can have the nuances on proximity to ground zero. we can't have them on freedoms of expressions or where to have mosques or synagogues. >> pastor, let me have you chime in on this. if we live in a secular society that is governed by laws and principles that guarantee freedom of religion, is there any good reason for the government to step in and prevent a church from being built based on its religion? >> well, let me give the american argument to that. let's remember that japanese emperor hiro hito was a symbol of the religion. imagine if they wanted to build a shrine honoring him at parole harbor.