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engaged as well, when they say enough we won't break any more heads. and that's what they are facing in my judgment. >> give me a sense, professor of the egyptian society. when you go there as a tourist or a visitor what you see is a lot of middle class and perhaps working class people who are dressed reasonably well. they are in a suit. they are doing business. they are making some money. they have a stake in society. are those the people that are the heart of egypt, the bureaucracy, those people that you see or the poor people outside the city that you never do see. are they the power? >> well, all of the above. i think it's crucial what the middle class does. and the kind of people that you mentioned and below. people who are working, the elite that's going to -- that s-i think is going to watch very carefully to decide whether they

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