up. last summer it was the bp explosion. so there's an enormous a lot of stuff going on in the lives of people where they're looking for real information, but also looking for real value in television. and that's across the political spectrum. and what oprah does so well on the success of this broadcast, i believe, is it gives everyone time and there is a kind of reason -- >> it's the time thing. >> it's the time thing. and there's a reasoned attitude about it, and oprah is amazing at listening, which is the real key. and being in the studio with her and looking out at that audience. and i ran into a beverly hills matron after i had been on, it was the last person i would have expected would have flown to chicago, because she'd gotten tickets for her show, then she had gone back and helped organize some fund-raising for military families, which we had talked about. but oprah has this uncanny capacity to listen, give people time to say what they have to say, and choose the subjects very carefully and do the right mix. you know, today it's "the view"
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