decent, but this is the grandwizard of the kkk, and he's tweaking them, saying no, you don't have matter and you can't make that claim on med. he's doing it to a cheering section that's out there, and he node it and it's worked for him. >> what would be the message for african-americans and people who care about these things? you put up nathan bedford forrest. he was a courageous general, i know his role, but later on he went back home and was one of the founders of the kkk. >> the message is don't like me, don't vote for me, work against me -- >> and i don't need your votes. >> that's the message, and it's run rubbing it in your face again. >> it's not just that he was a grand wizard. during some war he ordered the massacre of a group of surrendering black union troops