>> oh, that's unfair. >> i would ask you. because romney would be robotic. >> he would. >> i'm going to say romney. >> but who would you rather have as president? >> not just that. i just came from the memorial service for david berger. and one of the points that one of the eulogists made, he didn't believe in trivializing politics. this is not a game. and romney is a smart guy. she has no business being in this. she is out of the clown car. >> she is taping this right now. john alder, she is loving -- some big shot ivy leaguer, on "newsweek," has just declared her not eligible to run for president. >> i didn't say that. i said she is going to win the iowa caucus and lose in new hampshire. >> you called her trivial. >> here is the thing that is i think most significant about her. what does she do to tim pawlenty who is also from minnesota? does she push him off stage? >> i think you're right. >> there's a gresham's law here, the good money drives the money out of circulation.