libya doesn't get you very far. at the end of the day, we protected all those civilians in benghazi who will get wiped out by gadhafi. as this thing grinds on and on, the human toll will mount and mount. unless the u.s. and the allies are prepared to do more than i think they're prepared to do, i'm not sure how this ends before we see that same human toll stretched out over months or perhaps years. >> peggy. >> what's happening, gene, with the u.s. use, the new use of drones? i think surveillance drones, not armed ones. what's going on there? >> armed drones. >> they talked about armed drones as well, peggy. >> i thought they were surveillance one. >> they announced armed drone, secretary gates did. >> he said armed drones.