money. and both parties are good at that. if all there is at the end of the job training is not a long-term paycheck or a job that helps solve a problem, it's simply a better trained unemployment pool with a country deeper in debt. today, we're debunking the job training myth and starting to try to solve the problem of how to fix it with jim bovard, author of "attention definite democracy." also with us, dena cooper, for years she worked on jobs issues as philadelphia's deputy mayor of policy, trying to improve well-intended but frequently either dysfunctional or absolutely wasteful programs to try to actually get the intended result. james, i'm going to begin with you. why is it that these programs don't actually deliver what they promise? >> well, the labor department has no competence in training
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