>> why is herman cain not going to hold up? >> i really don't want to hear it. >> i will tell you for the same reason that michele bachmann didn't hold up, for the same reason i knew rick perry's lead wasn't going to hold up for the same reason i knew last year sarah palin wasn't going to make it. because herman cain may be very good at making pizza but serious voters once this process moves along, maybe they reward him in iowa. he's not going to win new hampshire. just like michele bachmann is not going to win new hampshire. just like perry is not going to win new hampshire. as this thing roars south and then goes back north to the midwest these candidates always lose. they always lose. because voters at the end of the day as katty said are serious. at the end of the day they believe performance matters. >> they're not excited at all by any of these candidates, right? >> no. >> so at this point in the election in 2007, 1999, 1995,
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