be a very public, very strong advocate of the occupy movement. i believe that the values that are expressed in the formulation of the communications and the principles that are articulated by the protesters that i have met, i completely agree with, that there's a breach of fairness in the policy making in this country and that breach must be confronted. at the same time it is obvious that while -- whether it's me or anybody else who might stand in solidarity with the principles of the occupation, the behavior of any group of protesters is beyond the leadership and/or manageability of anybody, whether it's a media figure, whether it's a political leader or anybody else, because you're really dealing with behavioral economics. you're dealing with people who believe they are in a system that is screwing them in some way, and they are all there for different reasons which is not always rational. >> not always rational, but when you have protesters egging on law enforcement and egging on